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some pages not loading?

#1 Post by Directive » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:13 pm

The www.mylilsite.net page isn’t working

www.mylilsite.net didn’t send any data.
ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE

This trying to get the latest from another post.
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Re: some pages not loading?

#2 Post by palmboy5 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:11 pm

Uhhh, is it working now? haha. (I didn't do anything)
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Re: some pages not loading?

#3 Post by Directive » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:35 pm

Yes it is LOL. I figured it was my PC/Browser.
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Re: some pages not loading?

#4 Post by Directive » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:04 am

Still having an issue with this forum. Using Chrome 57.0.2987.133 (64-bit) or IE 11 11.953.14393.0

Chrome reads...
"This page isn’t working

http://www.mylilsite.net didn’t send any data.
ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE"
with a "Reload" button that does nothing.

IE 11 reads...
"This page can’t be displayed

•Make sure the web address http://www.mylilsite.net is correct.
•Look for the page with your search engine.
•Refresh the page in a few minutes."
with a "Fix Connection Problems" button, which is not the answer.

Sometimes, not often enough, if I go back and forth a few times the page loads. I tried clearing cookies and cache with no luck. Just this forum. Most/all of the forum topics pages load. Mostly the problem is loading pages with posts on them. This Topic "Web design & website review" seems to load everything. "Computer Hardware" has the errors above. I can make a list of which load and which do not if need be. Any ideas?
This is only my opinion, I could be wrong.
Motherboard - ASUS S500TD Chipset Intel® B660
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Re: some pages not loading?

#5 Post by palmboy5 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:14 pm

That is strange.. I wonder if it's some flaky routing between my host and your ISP.

Have you used a proxy before? I would try through a proxy to see, next time it happens :o
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Re: some pages not loading?

#6 Post by palmboy5 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:25 am

Also curious if HTTPS would help, you can make the URL start with "https://" instead and see if it'll load that way.

The thing about https is that this site is self-signed, I haven't paid for a real one, so your browser will complain that its insecure... you can tell it you want to continue anyway and it's fine.

HTTPS might help because the ISP (and any other middleman) can't interfere with the page contents and potentially cause errors (even with the current unpaid/invalid certificate).
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Re: some pages not loading?

#7 Post by Directive » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:16 pm

Using HTTPS, thru Chrome, the first page I got to read...

"Your connection is not private
Attackers might be trying to steal your information from www.mylilsite.net (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID
Automatically report details of possible security incidents to Google. Privacy policy
Back to safetyHIDE ADVANCED
This server could not prove that it is www.mylilsite.net; its security certificate is not trusted by your computer's operating system. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection. Learn more.
Proceed to www.mylilsite.net (unsafe)"

I proceeded. Low and behold it worked. I get the red Triangle that reads "not secure" at the top with a red slash thru the HTTPS but all pages load. Is that at my end? Why would it do that?
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Motherboard - ASUS S500TD Chipset Intel® B660
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Re: some pages not loading?

#8 Post by palmboy5 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:01 am

Yeah I get the same "Your connection is not private" error too. In an analogy, the error is basically...

Your computer is you, and you trust your parents ("Certificate Authorities").
By extension, you trust who your parents say you can trust.
You meet someone new (new website), they say "You can trust me, just ask your mom."
Your mom says "Yes you can trust them."
You trust them.

But my site has a self-signed certificate, meaning that no Certificate Authority will acknowledge its legitimacy... so:
You meet someone new, they say "You can trust me, trust me!"
You have to take their word for it. Usually this means you simply don't trust them.

Take my word for it, though. :thumb:
I'll posit that using basic HTTP is equivalent to "I have no parents and I trust everyone!" so choosing to trust a self-signed certificate for HTTPS is still an improvement over HTTP.

I suggested you try HTTPS because of this stuff:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/292583 ... -isps.html

Our ISPs have been modifying the websites we see without telling us, and in this case I'm guessing their modification attempt is causing errors that prevent the page from loading. The thing is, their bullshit only works on HTTP (which has no security whatsoever, which is why they're able to muck with the data), so if you use HTTPS you are fine.



Let's give this a few more days and see if the "fix" was a fluke before we theorize further.
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Re: some pages not loading?

#9 Post by Directive » Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:50 pm

Wow, ok. I have no problem using HTTPS with your site. I am certain someone is more likely to hack bandwidthplac2 before my PC, at least at first. What was puzzling is some of the forum topics (ie Web design & website review) loaded fine. Most other didn't and it seemed to have been the standard for subcategories as well.
I probably should look into a VPN seeing ISP can sell history. Any recommendations?
This is only my opinion, I could be wrong.
Motherboard - ASUS S500TD Chipset Intel® B660
Procesor - 12th Gen Intel Core i5-12400 2.50 GHz(18M Cache, up to 4.4 GHz, 6 cores)
Ram - PNY 2x8GB (16GB total) DDR4 -1600 MHz
Video card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti - Base Clock 1290MHz, Boost Clock 1392MHz, Memory Clock 7008 MHz, 4GB GDDR5 128-bit
Display - VIZIO 32" E32-C1 YV @ 1080P 60Hz
Sound - Realtek High Definition Audio w/ Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers
Power Supply - 300W power supply (80+ Bronze, peak 350W)
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Re: some pages not loading?

#10 Post by palmboy5 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:44 am

Yeah, I don't know why only some pages would be affected, but I would assume that those pages all share a particular image posted by someone..? *shrug*

I use AirVPN, but it's not perfect.. check out this VPN comparison chart:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

Is there a clear winner on that chart? It seems like a complete grab bag haha.

One thing to be aware of is that services with servers based in random other countries can allow them to be outside of the jurisdiction of the NSA and whatnot (""Fourteen Eyes" Country" column), but you would also end up appearing to be from that random country and regional services like Netflix and YouTube might refuse to play most of their content. There's a balance of convenience and privacy, highest convenience is a US server, but that server is under our government surveillance.

If you are happy with just hiding from the ISP, then services with US servers are good enough.
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Re: some pages not loading?

#11 Post by Directive » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:38 pm

As far as the Feds are concerned I think they monitor all network traffic, even in and out of the USA. I just don't want to make it easy for my ISP to sell my browsing history. I know using HTTPS on everything possible helps so a simple VPN should be fine. That chart is something else.
This is only my opinion, I could be wrong.
Motherboard - ASUS S500TD Chipset Intel® B660
Procesor - 12th Gen Intel Core i5-12400 2.50 GHz(18M Cache, up to 4.4 GHz, 6 cores)
Ram - PNY 2x8GB (16GB total) DDR4 -1600 MHz
Video card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti - Base Clock 1290MHz, Boost Clock 1392MHz, Memory Clock 7008 MHz, 4GB GDDR5 128-bit
Display - VIZIO 32" E32-C1 YV @ 1080P 60Hz
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Re: some pages not loading?

#12 Post by palmboy5 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:08 pm

BolehVPN actually looks pretty solid, from that chart.

And of course the Feds are monitoring all traffic in and out of the country, but that's what VPNs are for. All they get to monitor from you is an encrypted stream of crap.

To fully give your ISP the middle finger you need a VPN for sure, because HTTPS still allows the ISP to know what sites you visit. HTTPS only prevents them from knowing what you do/say on each of those sites but they still know that you connect to them.
With a VPN they would just manage your connection to the VPN and have no way to tell what sites you visit through that.
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Re: some pages not loading?

#13 Post by Directive » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:20 pm

OMG, $80 per year!? That chart is kinda hard to follow. Mullvad looks ok on the chart and it is $60 per year. Still kinda high in my opinion. I'll try to look for reviews that are easier to follow.
This is only my opinion, I could be wrong.
Motherboard - ASUS S500TD Chipset Intel® B660
Procesor - 12th Gen Intel Core i5-12400 2.50 GHz(18M Cache, up to 4.4 GHz, 6 cores)
Ram - PNY 2x8GB (16GB total) DDR4 -1600 MHz
Video card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti - Base Clock 1290MHz, Boost Clock 1392MHz, Memory Clock 7008 MHz, 4GB GDDR5 128-bit
Display - VIZIO 32" E32-C1 YV @ 1080P 60Hz
Sound - Realtek High Definition Audio w/ Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers
Power Supply - 300W power supply (80+ Bronze, peak 350W)
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Re: some pages not loading?

#14 Post by 2005 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:44 pm

Not to be funny, but a few dollars each month to give you all "just about" fully anonymous browsing is well worth it IMO. I say just about because if your VPN service provide keeps logs, that can lead back to you and also how you pay can lead back to you. There are some little "gotchas" that can allow for a way to identify the end user, and thus the traffic associated. But yeah, if you use a VPN service that doesn't keep logs, and allows you to pay with a method that doesn't lead back to you.... then you can rest fairly well at ease in knowing no one is "watching" what your doing. $7 a month or so is well worth that, I think. If a VPN service that keeps logs costs $3 a month, I'd much rather pay the extra $4 a month for one that doesn't.
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Re: some pages not loading?

#15 Post by Directive » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:40 pm

Sorry. What I meant was, another $80 per year. Why is everything a yearly fee. Whatever happened to single purchases.
This is only my opinion, I could be wrong.
Motherboard - ASUS S500TD Chipset Intel® B660
Procesor - 12th Gen Intel Core i5-12400 2.50 GHz(18M Cache, up to 4.4 GHz, 6 cores)
Ram - PNY 2x8GB (16GB total) DDR4 -1600 MHz
Video card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti - Base Clock 1290MHz, Boost Clock 1392MHz, Memory Clock 7008 MHz, 4GB GDDR5 128-bit
Display - VIZIO 32" E32-C1 YV @ 1080P 60Hz
Sound - Realtek High Definition Audio w/ Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers
Power Supply - 300W power supply (80+ Bronze, peak 350W)
HDD 1 - 512GB M.2 2280 NVMe™ PCIe® 4.0 SSD
HDD 2 - Western Digital WDC_WD10 1TB
Printer - Epson ET-3850
OS - Windows 11 Home x64

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