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2005 · #16 Post by **2005** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:45 am

I dont think windows xp is over priced.... a full version can be had for under 100$. I waste more money then that every holiday.

#17 Post by **palmboy5** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:23 pm

thats usually if you buy a product that has a bundle discount of XP with it. or it was 2 years ago XD

dude i would have bought XP, but the fact that it was 15% of the entire system price is... fuck them. (i think XP was $120 at the time.) my CPU and videocard together cost about the same.

neuralmop · #18 Post by **neuralmop** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:57 pm

2005 wrote:I dont think windows xp is over priced.... a full version can be had for under 100$. I waste more money then that every holiday.

Yeah, right, but even if $100 isn't a lot in your pocket, it still adds up into theirs.

2005 · #19 Post by **2005** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:50 pm

Bill Gates already has billons of dollars of his own money, Im sure M$ as a corporation is worth MUCH more then that. The damage has already been done, you dont put a bandaid on a cow that got hit with a .45

Directive · #20 Post by **Directive** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:59 pm

If XP pro was $100 or less I might just get it, but it isn't. The cheapest I see it is at Directron.com for about $130.
With the ammount of people who already buy them and the people that would buy them if they charged $50-$100 they would still make a killing. But sadly I think Bill is trying to build a dream house in every country in the world.

#21 Post by **palmboy5** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:00 pm

microsoft is still overpriced. theyre not all that big of a company in terms of employees. for a typical large company for example, they make all sorts of things, theyre everywhere. they have people working in factories in many "cheaper" countries producing the products (some large and heavy) and transport them throughout the world, with proper tech support throughout the world. and different regions may want different things in different "flavors" so there must be developers in those areas who understand that and design specific models for them, thousands of products altogether, thousands of things to support, a lotta guys.

but MS... theyre mainly a buncha programmers in Redmond, WA who only program for Windows and Office, all other products of theirs (excluding XBOX?) were just bought or licensed from other companies, so MS themselves dont actually need to even work on them, just windows and office. hell most of the components in Office were bought anyway, but theyre pretty old and MS is the one updating. relatively speaking, not that big of a workload. then they have to burn the CDs in a few factories which quite possibly are nearly fully automatic. all thats left are some translators, transportation of 3gram CDs (in boxes with manuals, but still...

) and tech support for other countries.

compared to other companies, MS isnt - and doesnt need to be - big. they dont have as large of an expense, yet they sell at maybe 2 times the price.

2005 · #22 Post by **2005** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:36 am

First M$ presses their cd's.... 95% of commercial cd's are pressed not burned.

Microsoft, despite the governments best efforst, has a huge monopoly.... they are BY FAR the single biggest OS on the planet. The little man can do nothing, windows has already gotten to big. And with every new version M$ gets alittle bit bigger, as does Gates bank account.

#23 Post by **palmboy5** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:26 am

lol its called pressing? i wasnt sure so i said burning, but yeah you can kinda figure that by all the years of CDs before burnable CDs even went on the black market, obviously another method ^^

mannyace · #24 Post by **mannyace** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:24 pm

Directive wrote:If XP pro was $100 or less I might just get it, but it isn't. The cheapest I see it is at Directron.com for about $130.
With the ammount of people who already buy them and the people that would buy them if they charged $50-$100 they would still make a killing. But sadly I think Bill is trying to build a dream house in every country in the world.

they have win xp home ACADEMIC and xp pro ACADEMIC for like $69 to $89, they are the "student versions" of home and pro... they are titled diff but they are the exact same software, no limitations or addons to the os

the only hard parts are finding it and then proving you are a student

neuralmop · #25 Post by **neuralmop** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:01 pm

2005 wrote:Bill Gates already has billons of dollars of his own money, Im sure M$ as a corporation is worth MUCH more then that. The damage has already been done.

That's a little nihilistic/conformist.

2005 · #26 Post by **2005** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:46 pm

It indeed may very well be, and I hate it just as much as you do. I dislike M$ running the show, but i feel its already a lost battle.

Directive · #27 Post by **Directive** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:51 pm

mannyace wrote:
Directive wrote:If XP pro was $100 or less I might just get it, but it isn't. The cheapest I see it is at Directron.com for about $130.
With the ammount of people who already buy them and the people that would buy them if they charged $50-$100 they would still make a killing. But sadly I think Bill is trying to build a dream house in every country in the world.
they have win xp home ACADEMIC and xp pro ACADEMIC for like $69 to $89, they are the "student versions" of home and pro... they are titled diff but they are the exact same software, no limitations or addons to the os

the only hard parts are finding it and then proving you are a student

Does it have stuff like IIS already in it? That and I am not a student, but I may be going to a trade school soon.

It's al Bill Gates fault anyway. If he haden't stuck it to IBM back in the 80's, windows wouldn't be here now, at least not like we know it.