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#106 Post by **palmboy5** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:51 am

http://www.mylilsite.net/images/tolchester/sdfront1.jpg
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/tolchester/sdrear1.jpg
46 lbs

http://www.mylilsite.net/images/tolches ... 0gths1.jpg
haha that heatsink's actual part with fins is like 5 times larger than my 6800's

http://www.mylilsite.net/images/tolches ... front1.jpg
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/tolchester/sdtotop1.jpg
lol.. the P4 slot isnt plugged in

http://www.mylilsite.net/images/tolchester/sdp4ext1.jpg
i cut off the P4 plug of another PSU, stripped the wire, plugged them in, taped it, and there we go...

http://www.mylilsite.net/images/tolches ... lives1.jpg
IT LIVES! oh this also shows when the lite-on wouldnt show

2005 · #107 Post by **2005** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:48 am

Dont want to seem like an idiot here but...

Why do you need the 4 pin PSU cable thingy, does every mobo need them? Didnt your new Tagan PSU have one or was it to short.....????

Very clean and nice in all, I would replace that IDE cable with a round one though... just for looks.

And your complaining because you couldnt enable cable select???? WTF I mean I think I've read somewhere its recommended you dont EVEN if you CAN. Master/Slave isnt that bad/difficult.

So lets see some benchies from your rig... try using the newest games you can and crank eye candy way up.

Also are you going to burn in your rig??? I plan on it.

#108 Post by **palmboy5** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:11 pm

dunno why the 4 pin cable is needed, its just 12V, Ground, 12V, Ground.. lol yeah the PSU's was too short.
in the manual it says "Do not forget to connect the 4-pin ATX +12 V power plug; otherwise, the system will not boot."

just for looks?? LOL, remember how the case has no window? XD

i like Cable Select because when im swapping drives for troubleshooting, i dont want to have to bother with any jumpers, i usually keep my nails short enough to make it hard to pick them out and when i have to swap a drive due to problems im probably already pissed and having to hassle with it doesnt help.

benchies.. well Half Life 2 i had at 1024x768, all highest settings with X4 AA, X8 AS, lowest fps i saw was 58. average id say is around 70. however, i didnt play very long because i saw artifacts blinking around sometimes, somethings up. these were all with the video card at 483/1160 (using the driver's Detect Optimal Frequencies) stock is 400/1000
yeah the FPS is pretty low, dont worry, its not the video card, i need to OC my X2, HL2 isnt multi-threaded. CS:S kept crashing before it could fully load, somethigns wrong.
tried some BF2, it didnt lag on anything, forgot my settings though, but they were high.
AquaMark score is 75,242, average FPS = 72
(tell me what i should benchmark with)

dunno what would qualify as burn in...

oh things im having trouble with are ClockGen, A64 Tweaker, Motherboard Monitor 5, etc, basically everything except for the "Probe" program that came with the mobo cant detect/change the settings.

i dont think Cool & Quiet is working, i enabled it in the BIOS and opened the Cool & Quiet program but it stays at 2GHz.

#109 Post by **palmboy5** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:41 am

ok i just played FEAR demo with everything on max (including Soft Shadows on) but no AA/AF and it was SOO GOOD omfg. that was excellent

2005 · #110 Post by **2005** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:11 am

Burning in just means to put the computer (mainly the processor videocard and ram) under nearly maximal loads for prolonged periods of time. This is done mainly to see wether or not what you have is sturdy and can take the abuse.

If anything fails, just RMA it back and get a new one.

About the issues, dunno dog sounds like something is on the fritz here. I think the video card is to blame, that or the drivers for it.

#111 Post by **palmboy5** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:43 am

i let Sisoft Sandra's Burn in Wizard burn for about 4 hours before but thats about it, becuase the first night i found the PC had restarted by itself, probably crashed.. i had the FSB up to 205 then, i changed it back to stock and it didnt happen this time. i let Prime95 run for a while, it found no errors, and as they say, you only need to run it for a few minutes to tell if an OC is stable so yeah..
currently im running both of them at once, damn dude lol 2036/2047MB RAM is being used XD both cores at 100%

2005 · #112 Post by **2005** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:06 pm

while its true that a few min ( i would go half an hour ) can tell if an OC is stable or not... I would think that a true burn in wouldnt happen until the 10+ hour range. Its like breaking in a baseball glove, 5 catches wont do it.

#113 Post by **palmboy5** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:46 pm

well i have it at 10x220 atm, it now counts for TWO A64 3500+. running two instances of Prime95 for each core, been stable for 20 minutes so far, 53C, am writing an essay on it XD

#114 Post by **palmboy5** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:07 pm

10x250, working fine.. but um.. the BIOS doesnt let me change multiplier, says it went down to 8x when i upped to 250 but apparently not, CPUZ and Everest are both reporting 10x250, which is all good. the 100MHz over the X2 4800+ should make up for having half the cache. speed increase in opening applications are very apparent now.
Priming both cores, 55C, its still at stock voltage, this is great!

I7Iz490N · #115 Post by **I7Iz490N** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:45 pm

2005 · #116 Post by **2005** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:48 pm

His X2 is actually a toledo core but with half the cache disabled. So its a toledo manchester hybrid codenamed tolchester.

I7Iz490N · #117 Post by **I7Iz490N** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:51 pm

#118 Post by **palmboy5** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:14 pm

his explaination missed a point, being "Manchester is 512KB cache"

Toledo is 1MB cache but mine has half disabled so it only has 512KB avaliable, just like a Manchster but its physically a Toledo so hybrid codename is Tolchester

ran HL2 again, it was awsome, i think i saw the fps in the 60s and 70s the most.. but a lot of the less stressful times it went to 200 or so, 7800GT is not OCed

#119 Post by **palmboy5** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:03 pm

ok i think my limit with the stock cooling is 2.6GHz, it is apparent that ill need like 1.5V to hit that and when i tried 1.52V my CPU temp was 64C in load, i think the CPU's max temp is 65.

#120 Post by **palmboy5** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:59 am

crap i just updated the BIOS and now its like.. i think the RAM stopped staying at 200MHz, and such. and for SOME reason this causes anything basically above ionno.. 220x10 to crash