Next Computer (its time, hopefully)

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#16 Post by **palmboy5** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:49 pm

Fine, updated. Method for earliest purchase (to have my dad approve it definitely can't look like a gaming desktop) would be to hold off on getting a video card or the second monitor. At that point the total is $720.93. I have a spare 6200LE I can use until those two items are bought.

#17 Post by **palmboy5** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:49 pm

Original Design of Current PC:
Antec P180
Tagan U22 480W
ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+
gigaram 2x1GB PC-4000
MSI 7800GT 256MB
Western Digital SATA 160GB 7200RPM
2x Seagate IDE 200GB 7200RPM
NEC IDE DVD Burner
LITE-ON IDE 16X DVD-ROM
Total: $1364.97

Planned PC:
Antec P182
Antec EA650 650W
Foxconn P45A-S
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Kingston 2x2GB PC2-6400
HIS 4850 512MB
Seagate SATA 1TB 7200RPM
Emprex (Sony NEC) SATA 20X DVD Burner
ASUS SATA DVD-ROM ('free' from semi-desktop)
Total: $904.92

The price difference just makes me laugh.

#18 Post by **palmboy5** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:02 am

Got the Intel Q6600 OEM G0 stepping and ECS GeForce7050VT-M combo for $179.99. Current newegg price for Q6600 is $194.99.

http://www.mylilsite.net/images/Q6600_9x335.jpg

LOL. Unstable. 9x333 was more stable, but in any case, this means my OC goal is perfectly possible once I get a REAL motherboard (I can't adjust the CPU voltage).

Something new to me is that I can OC the CPU without disabling the throttling, so it does clock back down to a multiplier of 6 (explaining the speeds mentioned by SP2004).

I7Iz490N · #19 Post by **I7Iz490N** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:44 pm

#20 Post by **palmboy5** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:37 pm

CompL33Tazn got a Gateway prebuilt with
<check his sig, previous page> for about 1k in November 2007. So no, by this time, the PC I'm building for $900 isn't THAT impressive... Except I can OC and he can't. XD

#21 Post by **palmboy5** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:15 am

http://www.mylilsite.net/images/kentsfi ... front1.jpg
I don't know if it hits you as much, but omg its so EMPTY.

http://www.mylilsite.net/images/kentsfi ... dback1.jpg
Thanks to that! Go P182!

Antec P182
OCZ 700GSXSLI 700W
Foxconn P45A-S
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro w/ MX-1
EVGA GeForce 6200LE 256MB (temp)
Corsair 2x2GB DDR2-800
Emprex (Sony NEC) 20X DVD Burner SATA
Seagate 1TB 7200RPM SATA
Total $776.92

System is currently stress testing, two Prime95 Blend, and two Small FFT. Interestingly, even with two Blends, the <4GB isn't used up like 2GB is with a single Blend on a dual core (1.1GB free or something!).

Can't wait to benchmark the 6200LE. with the other parts it should be one of the highest performing 6200LE ever. XD

I7Iz490N · #22 Post by **I7Iz490N** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:17 am

#23 Post by **palmboy5** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:39 am

Couple answers (but I'd call that several)

1. Price tag minus rebates total before taxes. Free shipping too for all that were ordered, EVEN the P182.
2. P182.
3. Budget nVidia video card that I benched to be about as fast as the AMD 690G integrated video in speed, which is slower than the Intel X3100 integrated video. It was free during Black Friday.
4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn
"Foxconn would be more accurately described as an original design manufacturer. Among other things, Foxconn produces the Mac mini, the iPod and the iPhone for Apple Computer; Intel-branded motherboards for Intel Corp.; various orders for American computer retailers Dell, Inc. and Hewlett Packard; the PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 for Sony; the Wii for Nintendo;the Xbox 360 for Microsoft, cell phones for Motorola, and Amazon Kindle."
GINORMOUS company. Even ASUS has to buy motherboard parts from Foxconn to make their own motherboards that compete with Foxconn's. This could be a primary reason for the Gigabyte/ASUS merger. Dragon, how could you not know? :O
5. Yeah G0 is the best. But so far I had to up the Vcore by 0.1875V just for it to hit 3GHz without failing Prime within the hour. Last time I checked it was 3 hours stable and of course I shall leave it for 24+ hours as so. BTW pleaseeeee stop me from getting greedy and OCing even higher.

I7Iz490N · #24 Post by **I7Iz490N** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:19 pm

#25 Post by **palmboy5** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:00 pm

The "6.25mV" increases in the BIOS for the Vcore is so bullshit. According to that, I raised my voltage by 0.5V so far, which is beyond the amount I can increase according to the Q6600 G0's max voltage rating. In reality, by measuring with my multimeter, the Vcore only increased by about 0.09V from that +0.5V setting. I am going to bet that this is why the BIOS doesn't let you choose a specific voltage, but gives you steps of increase. Choosing a voltage and then seeing something way lower would seem more bullshit to their method. There is also Vdroop (voltage goes down when the CPU is loaded) that I'll have to account for. All in all, that core 1 (start 0) has ALWAYS been the one to fail, none of the others have. I have a runt of a core. :[ Doing stability tests again at 9x334 with the voltage increased.

I can't for the hell of it find out how to add a Title to a chart in Excel 2007, but heres the Cinebench 10 benchmark results on all of my functional PCs:

I7Iz490N · #26 Post by **I7Iz490N** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:44 am

#27 Post by **palmboy5** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:58 am

Seven, actually. One is at my apartment at college (X2 3800+) that I'll be bringing back soon to replace my bro's (XP 2200+, its mobo is dying).

I suppose my new PC contradicts my sig in your eyes, but technically I didn't get it a good video card yet.. On the other hand, my sig image is outdated. brb. XD

nvm, it'll take longer than brb since I have to completely redo it. That AMD logo part must be replaced somehow. Drafts and deep considerations must be made.

I7Iz490N · #28 Post by **I7Iz490N** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:32 am

#29 Post by **palmboy5** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:00 am

I know my card is shit, but I don't like any video card out in their current states. Later I will try out the 7800GT in it, once I get the thing 24 hour Prime stable at 3GHz. Then much later I will order something along the lines of a 4850 aftermarket design (reference design is shit).

I'm tarding out. If theres an actual need for the entire 4GB, then I will move up to XP x64. For now the loss of software compatibility, just for some RAM I won't even end up using, isn't worth it.

EDIT:

Draft 1:

Stuff like the monitors and video card logo are not "correct", they're a mix of current setup, and planned setup. Currently the PC is connected to the 61" 1080p HDTV, not those two monitors.

I7Iz490N · #30 Post by **I7Iz490N** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:29 am