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Re: New computer #5

#46 Post by palmboy5 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:16 am

Yeah 2005, upgrading your current PC would be silly at this point.

Directive, GTX 1060 should be plenty, maybe even just a 1050?

As for my desktop, here are the purchased parts so far, and is functional!

$999.99 : Intel Core i7 6900K
$34.99 : Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (placeholder)
$239.53 : ASUS X99-A II
$359.98 : Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 4x16GB DDR4-2400
$629.99 : Samsung 960 Pro 1TB
$1,239.98 : 2x MSI GTX 1080 Armor 8G OC
$39.99 : EVGA SLI Bridge HB - 1 Slot Spacing
$187.99 : Seasonic SNOW SILENT 1050W
$69.99 : Fractal Design Define R5 (maybe not so placeholder? still need to see if it can fit the watercooling hardware)

Table build while experimenting:
http://mylilsite.net/images/broadwell2/ ... Build1.jpg

To not much surprise, the Hyper 212 EVO is not quite enough to keep the CPU cool. Even at stock speeds, the CPU fully loaded will get to low 80C. My attempt to overclock to 4GHz brings it up to its limit of 100C, where it immediately throttles down to 3.xx GHz to avoid hitting 100C.
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#47 Post by 2005 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:37 pm

Looks like one beast of a getup!


Should be a monster, even at 4K res
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Re: New computer #5

#48 Post by palmboy5 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:57 am

I've put the parts into the case and did some measurements, and need to decide how to move forward...

TL;DR, I don't think the case is big enough for my goals, and the possible layouts are sub-optimal.

It looks like I can maybe stick a 3x120mm radiator on the top, a 1x120mm radiator on the rear, and a 2x120mm radiator on the front, at most. But this means 2 fans doing intake and 4 fans for exhaust, which results in negative pressure and air would be getting sucked in through any/all openings. I cannot dust filter the case if air is just going to go in through any and all cracks. There must be more intake than exhaust. Only the bottom and front of the case are dust filtered, so only those places can have intake fans.

I want as much radiator area (counted by number of 120mm fans) as I can so that the fans can run as slowly (and quietly) as possible.
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Re: New computer #5

#49 Post by Directive » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:04 pm

Directive wrote:Necro has been a character choice since I started a few months ago.
Sorry, got the Necro confused with Witch Doctor.
This is only my opinion, I could be wrong.
Motherboard - ASUS S500TD Chipset Intel® B660
Procesor - 12th Gen Intel Core i5-12400 2.50 GHz(18M Cache, up to 4.4 GHz, 6 cores)
Ram - PNY 2x8GB (16GB total) DDR4 -1600 MHz
Video card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti - Base Clock 1290MHz, Boost Clock 1392MHz, Memory Clock 7008 MHz, 4GB GDDR5 128-bit
Display - VIZIO 32" E32-C1 YV @ 1080P 60Hz
Sound - Realtek High Definition Audio w/ Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers
Power Supply - 300W power supply (80+ Bronze, peak 350W)
HDD 1 - 512GB M.2 2280 NVMe™ PCIe® 4.0 SSD
HDD 2 - Western Digital WDC_WD10 1TB
Printer - Epson ET-3850
OS - Windows 11 Home x64

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Re: New computer #5

#50 Post by Directive » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:16 am

This is only my opinion, I could be wrong.
Motherboard - ASUS S500TD Chipset Intel® B660
Procesor - 12th Gen Intel Core i5-12400 2.50 GHz(18M Cache, up to 4.4 GHz, 6 cores)
Ram - PNY 2x8GB (16GB total) DDR4 -1600 MHz
Video card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti - Base Clock 1290MHz, Boost Clock 1392MHz, Memory Clock 7008 MHz, 4GB GDDR5 128-bit
Display - VIZIO 32" E32-C1 YV @ 1080P 60Hz
Sound - Realtek High Definition Audio w/ Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers
Power Supply - 300W power supply (80+ Bronze, peak 350W)
HDD 1 - 512GB M.2 2280 NVMe™ PCIe® 4.0 SSD
HDD 2 - Western Digital WDC_WD10 1TB
Printer - Epson ET-3850
OS - Windows 11 Home x64

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Re: New computer #5

#51 Post by palmboy5 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:00 pm

It's looking like I can only overclock the CPU to 4.2GHz with watercooling.. On the low end but acceptable.

The thing I've learned during this stuff is that AVX makes the CPU run way hotter, like 20C hotter. It's a big enough deal that the BIOS actually has a function to choose a lower max clock rate for cores that are running AVX instructions. So, my OC is conditionally 4.2GHz, but if the program I use uses AVX then it'll clock down to 3.9GHz.

TL;DR, my CPU OC is either 3.9GHz or 4.2GHz, depending on application.


P.S. I'm way too busy to get this shit done in a timely manner :oops:
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Re: New computer #5

#52 Post by 2005 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:59 pm

Are you actively using this system yet, or are you still in the phase of getting it tweaked
how you want it?

I'm curious to see what the performance increases are for the things you do with your
machine. I'd think that even with no OC, the new rig should be much faster at the types
of processing work you normally do.
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Re: New computer #5

#53 Post by palmboy5 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:47 pm

I'm not using it yet, which at this point is mostly the fault of me choosing the Thermaltake X9 which is a double-width very large case to house my watercooling system that has two pumps, two reservoirs, two 420mm radiators, and one 280mm radiator... its been a complicated build and I needed all the space I could get.

The problem is the case is double-width and simply doesnt fit where my Sandybridge desktop sits and would otherwise take too much of my leg room if I had it on the floor... I have to clean up and redesign my room layout before the new PC can finally be at its new "home". I haven't gotten around to figuring out the room situation yet, let alone go through the pics I've taken of the build ;)
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Re: New computer #5

#54 Post by palmboy5 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:11 am

~2 years in... one of the GPUs died in some way. It was a pain. I couldn't get it to just use the 2nd card as a single GPU with the dead body of the first GPU still in the computer, but I also couldn't easily remove the dead card due to it being part of the watercooling loop...

Ended up unscrewing the card from the watercooling block and leaving the waterblock hanging in mid air lol.
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Re: New computer #5

#55 Post by palmboy5 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:09 am

The thing that's tempting me right now is:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZRWvHh

I could buy a new CPU (that's faster than the 6900k), a fanless heatsink (if I'm too lazy to get a new waterblock for the CPU), and a motherboard, for about the same price as I could sell the 6900k for on eBay.

Reusing the rest of the parts, I'd have a newer, faster system at basically zero cost. Top that off with lower power usage and MUCH faster single threaded performance.

So. Tempting. :P
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Re: New computer #5

#56 Post by 2005 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:51 pm

For sure.... I'm torn between waiting of the next (and last I think) desktop AM4 processor or the first of their next gen socket (AM5?)

My experience with the first Ryzen gen processor hasn't be "great" (although certainly not terrible) but my memory wouldn't run full speed
and it is more of an issue on this platform. They've since solved that problem.

Now that I'm doing contracting, I can write it off as a business expense... so 22% "ish" discount? Decisions, decisions. I guess now that I use it
full time for business, over 10 hours every day... I can justify building a new machine every other year.

I did just order an EVGA SuperClocked GTX 1080 on ebay to replace my nearly 10 year old HD 5870. Pretty good price... $250 shipped with tax.



EDIT: September 2020 will be 3 years for this current build. Cost me about $850 although that includes using a 500GB SSD I already had and reusing
my HD5870 from the previous build.

If I do rebuild, I could wait until Black Friday rolls around to maybe save some cash on the case, power supply, memory and SSD. Likely no discounts
or very tiny discounts would be given on a brand new motherboard / CPU that just launched. But could still probably save $200 or so.
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Re: New computer #5

#57 Post by palmboy5 » Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:59 am

The mention that AM4 might be on its last gen hasn't occurred to me.. although, would you really be upgrading your CPU later? I feel like that situation never happens.

GTX 1080! Solid! And good price :) I sold one of my 1080's for ~$310 last summer, so $250 is reasonably good.

I'm coming up on 3 years next month too (bought most parts but didn't finish watercooling for a couple months), but it was a $6k PC so that'd be $2k/year if I change it up already now lol.
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